Subject	Thanks for the update. Does the profit offset the
Posted by	not4resaleZ on November 14, 2016 at 11:39 AM
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In Reply To	Oil sands isn't in the red as much as you think. posted by MixManMash on November 14, 2016 at 11:15 AM
Message	subsidies? Could they continue operating without government subsidies? https://cleantechnica.com/2016/02/08/canada-gives-46-billion-per-year-in-fossil-fuel-subsidies/ I suspect this will never turn a profit when accounting for subsidies.
Follow Ups	plannng on going E85.whats the best route? - EZdusit (cali) 18:41:49 11/11/16 you would be a FOOL to convert the car to run exclusively on - LJZTT 19:31:56 11/11/16 what happened this week? (n/m) - EZdusit (cali) 02:00:56 11/12/16 an election - LJZTT 09:45:43 11/12/16 There are no longer federal subsidies for ethanol. - not4resaleZ 11:04:21 11/12/16 Finally after 30 years of subsidy the government >> - ZUL8TR 14:22:25 11/12/16 Yet they still keep the oil industry subsidies. (n/m) - not4resaleZ 15:04:48 11/12/16 They still have Helium subsidies from WW1 from the >>> - ZUL8TR 06:38:30 11/13/16 Along with a bunch of other subsidies for the chosen >> - ZUL8TR 06:40:08 11/13/16 sigh..... - LJZTT 14:56:24 11/12/16 bottom line: take advantage of it while you still can, but - LJZTT 15:01:49 11/12/16 unaware of anything having changed since this... - LJZTT 15:30:06 11/12/16 Yes, but I don't think anyone is worried about cafe credits. - not4resaleZ 15:53:11 11/12/16 what part of "no one buys the fuel" do you not understand? - LJZTT 15:57:21 11/12/16 Re: what part of "no one buys the fuel" do you not understand? - LJZTT 15:59:46 11/12/16 Why would they make it in record amounts if no one buys it? - not4resaleZ 16:10:27 11/12/16 the reality is that there are very few true free markets - LJZTT 20:55:17 11/12/16 Oil can't compete with ethanol in a free market. - not4resaleZ 10:51:05 11/14/16 Oil sands isn't in the red as much as you think. - MixManMash 11:15:06 11/14/16 Thanks for the update. Does the profit offset the - not4resaleZ 11:39:13 11/14/16 Can't say if it will or won't. The big issue I have with - MixManMash 11:45:41 11/14/16 They have about peaked out the amount of land to - not4resaleZ 12:04:58 11/14/16 Highly doubt that. - bartz32tt 14:59:19 11/14/16 The land being used to grow the corn could be used to grow - MixManMash 17:36:34 11/15/16 not interested in how world should be, just telling you - LJZTT 14:07:10 11/14/16 Interesting thread. (n/m) - OverZealous (CT) 13:20:56 11/15/16 Easy to convert CO2 to Ethanol: - not4resaleZ 11:16:47 11/12/16 I read an article about that research. - LJZTT 14:59:15 11/12/16 Just order a drum to keep in the garage.... - The Hawk 10:12:09 11/12/16 Unless you live in AZ and have a de-humidified garage - LJZTT 15:53:52 11/12/16 I know plenty of folks that do this..... - The Hawk 13:08:57 11/13/16 Not true - Stanky 14:59:41 11/13/16 ?? That can't be though, bc LJ said so! (n/m) - The Hawk 10:21:50 11/15/16 Forgetaboutit E10 is bad enough with the lack of>> - ZUL8TR 04:06:36 11/12/16 Not quite..... - The Hawk 10:14:50 11/12/16 This myth as been busted. Do a search to verify. - not4resaleZ 11:08:08 11/12/16 Is that 2005 EVO set for rubber and parts to be happy with>> - ZUL8TR 13:49:00 11/12/16 I used to think the fuel line change was important, then - not4resaleZ 14:04:45 11/12/16 No mention in the video of what year cars were in the >> - ZUL8TR 14:25:46 11/12/16 Mercury Marine would disagree with you. - not4resaleZ 15:03:25 11/12/16 My race outboards are pre 1980, vintage engines. (n/m) - ZUL8TR 02:40:00 11/13/16 Well OF COURSE you need to be tuned for it..... - The Hawk 13:17:37 11/13/16 Auto clubs representing 19 million members can't find - not4resaleZ 13:53:28 11/12/16 some IDIOTIC responses. e85 is the nectar of the gods - volcomstone550 09:01:53 11/12/16 e85 is the nectar of the gods = truth - Madhatter10-6 14:44:08 11/12/16 Children of the Corn (n/m) - ztunerz 19:02:35 11/12/16 Re: plannng on going E85.whats the best route? - Jason300zxTT 07:00:04 11/13/16 It might be ok to compromise. Run 9.5:1 with Ethenol flex - ztunerz 08:50:47 11/13/16 SZ with map selector switch. I don't know if Nistune - puchy 20:43:24 11/13/16 Nistune has FlexFuel integrated now. Go with it. - induetime 10:42:18 11/14/16 boost control.... (n/m) - ztunerz 20:24:17 11/14/16
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